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tEh intarweb!

An important step to fighting terrorism is to stop making everyone hate us so that they don't want to do bad things to us.

Yet we're still stuck in beat-everyone-up mode. Looks like the 'net is under fire now. A shame that there is no more control over it than there is control over the free will of our minds that we speak on the net.


Begin step 1 of the feds realizing that they not only have no control, but they can't get it without an iron fist over the entire world, which aint gonna happen any time soon.

I recommend they finish their current attempts to control IRAQ before taking on the 'net ...

- Keman


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Sep. 29th, 2005 06:12 pm (UTC)
They have a good start, but the support would diminish the moment they try to manage another countrys domain. The real issue here is, they now have free reign to limit OUR connections. And that sucks.
Sep. 29th, 2005 06:27 pm (UTC)
They DO?

Funny that not only can I point to offshore DNS servers, I don't even need DNS. If there's something they wanted to impact, I could dial the IP directly. DNS is like a phonebook. If you want to make it so that I can't connect to something, you have to disconnect the # or limit my outbound ability to dial it. Except that you can't do that without me and the entire world noticing, and there are of course ways around it, easy ways.

No, the only way the feds can control the net is to have an iron fist on everything, every bit of connectivity. This is -inherentely- impossible with the way the entire internet is put together. It would need to be revamped completely, all at once. It isn't even something they could slowly accomplish.

This will be about as fruitful as various ISP's blocking certain sites that were unresponsive to complaints about their users sending spam years and years ago. Guess what? The users wouldn't stand for it, said fuck you and ditched the ISP, leaving the power hungry admins to blame for lost business. Said admins were out jobs in a heartbeat.

I suppose if there WAS no ISP to turn to .. this would be less so. But that's an AOL wet dream that will never happen IMO.

- Keman
Sep. 29th, 2005 06:45 pm (UTC)
I think their aim is conservative values, and that's fairly easy to block on a local level. Try finding IP adresses to your favorite porn. There are ways around it, but we use DNS becaus it's so much more convienient.
Sep. 29th, 2005 06:46 pm (UTC)
Heh. I just called the Continental US a local level.
Sep. 29th, 2005 06:20 pm (UTC)
Hi! - found ya! Added to list of friends on LJ :) yay!
Sep. 29th, 2005 06:29 pm (UTC)
w00t. :)

- Keman
Sep. 29th, 2005 07:54 pm (UTC)
The government has control over more than just simple ISP connections and DNS. Many of the trunk lines and networks are government owned. It was MCI years ago that asked to be connected to the then government(read educational) network for email services etc. It grew from there, it was smart to have a central database of names. The government still controls a lot of trunk lines, lines which can't easily be gotten around. They have control in most likely every place there is a storage pont or network change over. I've seen them watching. The government wants basic control as the creator of the network, not the police of the network. What other country has the resources to maintain the root of the internet? Is the government really able to control it that much? Right now they have a hard enough time just listening to parts of it.

I happen to remember a certain time where a bit of trouble came from a certain country across the pacific, 16 unplugged fibers later and the problem was solved. The world may be linked, but it is not highly redundant and resistant to tamper and control. Eh well.
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