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Firefox just became the new winnar of the 'no really, I'm not interested in any more updates, thanks' award.

It works well enough for now. I'm uninterested in further updates until I decide that further functionality or specific issues need to be addressed.

I use three different computers throughout the day, and I've been getting plagued with these "Firefox has updated and needs to restart!" about a dozen times in the last couple of weeks .. and I am quite tired of it.

Constantly rolling out microfixes as a default is STUPID. Save up the changes and release them as a major version improvement. I already left one company that didn't seem to want to adopt this strategy and look where it's got them.

- Keman

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rebelsheart
Aug. 4th, 2006 05:49 pm (UTC)
The change from 1.5.0.5 to 1.5.0.6 was because of something breaking in Windows Media Player.
kysh
Aug. 4th, 2006 06:01 pm (UTC)
I'm a fan of microfixes, but not of intrusive microfixes. There's no reason they couldn't just make it so that, by default, Firefox installed its updates and they were applied each time you started the browser.

I know WHY they do it, and it's not stupid-- It's just one choice, albeit a particularly annoying one. They want to make sure that any potential holes are closed as soon as possible, so they don't get egg on their face with a 'firefox worm'.

-Kysh
furriousfox
Aug. 5th, 2006 08:19 am (UTC)
Thats because its open sourced and linux based wuffit. Its pretty common for code revisions to be released a lot more than most people need hehe.
wolffit
Aug. 5th, 2006 01:30 pm (UTC)
Actually that was a Keman post. :-P
hastka
Aug. 5th, 2006 11:51 pm (UTC)
I find it ironic that the whole "go with open source code, it's superior!!!11" camp has now embraced the microsoft business model of frequent, or indeed perhaps even transparent updates, calls to the mothership, etc. I recall a time when that kind of thing would be cause for the entire haxx0r community to spam you with hate mail, insulting your product, and mother.

I think I'm going with Keman on that one. If you build a buggy product, kindy wait until you can fix a measurable part of it before pushing fixes. If people want to update their software, they can go and find updates themselves. Particularly with the amount of regression and inter-compatibility testing open source code gets (almost none, since it's impossible with an open source OS), I don't really trust it to be updating itself at random.
furriousfox
Aug. 6th, 2006 01:30 am (UTC)
Id like to add that this only applies to the windows version of firefox. Grouping the entire open sourced community because of one product for one os (especially a free product) is ignorant and jumping on a bandwagon in my opinion. No offense to anyone
hastka
Aug. 6th, 2006 01:39 am (UTC)
Now, how could I possibly be offended by a complete stranger calling my comment ignorant? ;)

I'll grant you that it's one example. Even so, my point was that there was a time when "one example" would be all the more visible a target of nerd hatred and backlash.
phyxis
Aug. 7th, 2006 03:26 am (UTC)
Ig'n't! ;-)

A better comment would be that Gentoo, as a Linux distribution, will not get any credibility in the corporate world until they stop calling their users "Fucking Hosers" during the initial installation.
wolffit
Aug. 6th, 2006 06:05 pm (UTC)
If people want to update their software, they can go and find updates themselves. Particularly with the amount of regression and inter-compatibility testing open source code gets (almost none, since it's impossible with an open source OS), I don't really trust it to be updating itself at random.

So, um. Tools | Options | Advanced | Update, and turn off automatic updates.
hastka
Aug. 7th, 2006 03:01 am (UTC)
Or, make an assumption that the user is smart enough to know when they want to upgrade, and either: 1) default to manual update, or 2) ask you as part of the install process "do you want to be annoyed by alerts each time someone makes an update of arbitrarily small size?"

I don't argue that it falls under the category of pet peeve. However, I also am of the firm belief that if you're l33t enough to use open source software, you're l33t enough to know how and when to do your own updates.
wolffit
Aug. 7th, 2006 01:13 pm (UTC)
Or assume that because your browser is one of the most popular on the market you will have non-l33t users, and therefore will have users who are not smart enough to know when they want to upgrade. Those who are smart enough, will also be smart enough to turn off automatic updates if they want to.
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