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Today I started flashing my highbeams at slow drivers when I approach them from behind if they are in the passing (left) lane.

The law in virginia states that slower drivers must yeild to faster approaching cars.

While this tactic is more confrontational, I must admit that it is certainly safer than riding their ass.

In the past I have avoided doing this because when they don't move out of the way, to me it is more blatant, and I suffer a greater blow to my ego. This causes a more heated situation, which I'd like to avoid.

I've seen multiple people doing it lately though, which to me is good as it means people will consider it less out of the ordinary. The object is to get the person to move out of the way, not create a road rage war where they slow way down, taking insult at your desire to drive faster than they can/want to, and make you a target of their hatred. Whatever manner avoids this yet allows drivers to drive at the speed they desire is the best.

I've seen it take as many as 4 or 5 attempts, but sure enough .. people move. I am looking forward to getting more comfortable with this procedure.

- Keman

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wolffit
Jan. 12th, 2006 10:12 pm (UTC)
Perhaps I'm exceeding the speedlimit, perhaps not. The law doesn't seem to care:

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-804

"Any vehicle proceeding at less than the /normal speed of traffic/ at the time and place and under the conditions existing, shall be driven in the lane nearest the right edge or right curb of the highway when such lane is available for travel except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or in preparation for a left turn or where right lanes are reserved for slow-moving traffic as permitted in this section"

The "normal speed" of traffic is frequently 20+ mph faster than the posted speed on the highways. Except for HOV lanes on some roads, we're limited to 55 mph, which is below the federal regulated highway limit by 10mph. People go 75-80 in light traffic / cruising speeds. Those going 60 in the far left lane are not moving at the "normal speed" ... and the conga line of people passing on the right as a result is often obvious.

For as "habitually" as I exceed the speed limit, I'll note that I have zero accidents nor traffic violations on my record. My "speeding" often is just going as fast as the people in front of me.

- Keman
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harlkyn
Jan. 12th, 2006 10:13 pm (UTC)
In California, people have gotten tickets for driving the speed limit in the fast lane. "Impeeding the flow of traffic."
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murakozi
Jan. 13th, 2006 04:06 pm (UTC)
In general, Germans are somewhat better and more courteous drivers than Americans, though. They tend to follow the laws and common courtesies of the road. I remember the first time I drove in Germany, long long ago, pulling up and stopping at the end of a line at a red light. The others in the car told me 'You need to back up' which confused me at first, since I hadn't gone and stopped right on the tail of the car in front of me. Turns out there was an entrance to a business' parking lot to the right and, though not stated in the law, one just always made sure to leave room for traffic from the opposite direction to turn in front of you in that situation. As if on cue, I'd not even had time to put the car in reverse when a car came up in the opposite direction and the driver gave a little flash of her lights and a friendly smile, asking me to make room. (not the sort of hostile reaction I probably would've gotten in a similar situation in this area)>

Here in the DC area, drivers tend to be far more self centered and unconcerned about others or what effects their driving actions will have upon traffic.
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firedhusky
Jan. 12th, 2006 11:42 pm (UTC)
Flashing the lights is a VERY international way of leting someone know that they are going slower than you... and you want to pass them.

If there is space for them to let you pass, i dont see why is such a big deal to let you go.
They are not cops and is not their job to make you comply with the speed limit. Thats what cops are for.

I drive considerably faster than the average person, i wont deni it. Unfortunatelly, I find myself having to fight people just to let me pass.

Is their ego ?
Are they control freaks ?
Do they have to prove that they can "make" you go at the speed they consider confortable?
Or just don`t like no one infront of them ?
May you are breaking their perfect society governed by rules that make them feel safe?
Or are just plenty stupid ?

who knows.

Totally support flashing lights to let people know that youwant to pass them.


Good luck in your quest

FDH

alaskanwolf
Jan. 13th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC)
Yeah, fuck those left lane moving road blocks!
savant_da_rat
Jan. 13th, 2006 03:32 am (UTC)
I'm all for this; when someone comes barreling up behind me and then flashes their headlights to signal that that they want to pass, I'm more than happy to oblige. They become my "speeding buddy", that is, they're going to spring the speed trap and not me. Let 'em pass ya and keep on speedin'...

And it's always better than tailgating, which is downright dangerous and stupid. And (rightfully) ticketable. I'd consider riding someone's ass more confrontational (and eventually, you'll piss someone off enough that they'll stand on the brake, and you'll be liable for the accident.) Just flash them instead, please :P

-Digit
bikercheetah
Jan. 13th, 2006 03:57 am (UTC)
I usually flash my high-beams twice and flash in time with the flashing, "Move, bitch".. :3
xydexx
Jan. 13th, 2006 04:54 am (UTC)
I'm all for this; when someone comes barreling up behind me and then flashes their headlights to signal that that they want to pass, I'm more than happy to oblige.
I'm only fine with it if they don't try to zip past me on the right while I'm trying to get out of their way.
wolffit
Jan. 13th, 2006 02:16 pm (UTC)
Let's be clear, here. We're not talking about the lone individual driving well above the prevailing speed of traffic, coming barrelling up on someone in the left lane who is otherwise following the flow of traffic.

We're talking about the flow of traffic in the left one or two lanes of the highway, generally travelling at a given speed, and one vehicle in the far left lane travelling well below that speed.

For example. On my way to work this morning, there was an compact car in the left lane travelling at 60mph in a 55. I watched as about half a dozen cars in front of me, and another half dozen one lane to the right, pass this compact.

That is the situation in which flashing your lights at the person to indicate your desire to overtake them is appropriate, and in fact, fully in compliance with Virginia law.

-Galen
tetsutora
Jan. 13th, 2006 01:21 pm (UTC)
someone flashes thier highbeams at me, i hit the brakes and pray for being rear ended.
alaskanwolf
Jan. 13th, 2006 01:40 pm (UTC)
and THATS what we call assault with a deadly weapon at worst or wreckless driving at the least. *eyerolls*
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wolffit
Jan. 13th, 2006 03:23 pm (UTC)
And I pray for the day you do that to an unmarked police cruiser.

I'd take 2 speeding tickets to watch that happen. That's dangerous and stupid.

- Keman
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